Comments on: How to work an 8-hour day http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/ Code and musings by Ben Watson Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:35:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: PRAVEEN KUMAR EHERSA http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-92485 PRAVEEN KUMAR EHERSA Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:35:14 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-92485 thank u very much for yr near perfect insight to a third of our living lives.Igot back a third of my lost life back in the fastes possible times?working@ 1/8th of yr sagacious 8h suggestions? . . .ps . . could u do a similar thing and go down to a 4h working day.thats may be,u were polite about that 8h earning day?u deserve a big hug outsides of yr working 8h eh!thank u thank u very much for yr near perfect insight to a third of our living lives.Igot back a third of my lost life back in the fastes possible times?working@ 1/8th of yr sagacious 8h suggestions? . . .ps . . could u do a similar thing and go down to a 4h working day.thats may be,u were polite about that 8h earning day?u deserve a big hug outsides of yr working 8h eh!thank u

]]> By: Can You Limit Yourself to an 8-Hour Day? | Slow Leadership http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-45646 Can You Limit Yourself to an 8-Hour Day? | Slow Leadership Mon, 19 May 2008 13:38:50 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-45646 [...] Geek recently posted an article called: ‘How to work an 8-hour day‘. Some of the advice, though sound enough, was very familiar (Don’t waste time, don’t [...] [...] Geek recently posted an article called: ‘How to work an 8-hour day‘. Some of the advice, though sound enough, was very familiar (Don’t waste time, don’t [...]

]]> By: 4 Principles of Not Wasting Time | Philosophical Geek http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-44187 4 Principles of Not Wasting Time | Philosophical Geek Tue, 06 May 2008 15:41:35 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-44187 [...] my entry about working an 8-hour day, I talked about various time-wasting activities that I’ve observed, such as  wandering [...] [...] my entry about working an 8-hour day, I talked about various time-wasting activities that I’ve observed, such as  wandering [...]

]]> By: Juliano D. Carniel http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-43631 Juliano D. Carniel Thu, 01 May 2008 21:00:53 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-43631 Nice post! One thing that is never considered though is that when you leave work with a problem unsolved, normally your you keep working in your head all night, or even worse when you have a major problem, something that takes days to solve, you keep working everyday, always tring to get a solution. How to bill this time?! Not that is something needed to be billed, but sometimes is worth to consider in the whole work-month-hours. Nice post!
One thing that is never considered though is that when you leave work with a problem unsolved, normally your you keep working in your head all night, or even worse when you have a major problem, something that takes days to solve, you keep working everyday, always tring to get a solution.

How to bill this time?! Not that is something needed to be billed, but sometimes is worth to consider in the whole work-month-hours.

]]> By: Paul M http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-43067 Paul M Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:41:49 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-43067 Once you get a few years of experience onboard, it's time to adopt a very simple rule: "I do not work for free anymore". If they want a 10 hour day to get the product out the door, then they can pay you the overtime. If they "don't have it on the budget", or any bullshit like that, then that means that the project does not have the budget to get the product out the door. Not your problem. "I do not work for free anymore". PS: when management stops providing free coffee and biscuits (cookies) in the lunch room, start looking for another job. A project that can't blow a couple of hundred a week on keeping the bottom level employees happy is a project that is going down. Once you get a few years of experience onboard, it’s time to adopt a very simple rule: “I do not work for free anymore”. If they want a 10 hour day to get the product out the door, then they can pay you the overtime. If they “don’t have it on the budget”, or any bullshit like that, then that means that the project does not have the budget to get the product out the door. Not your problem.

“I do not work for free anymore”.

PS: when management stops providing free coffee and biscuits (cookies) in the lunch room, start looking for another job. A project that can’t blow a couple of hundred a week on keeping the bottom level employees happy is a project that is going down.

]]> By: Justin http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-42962 Justin Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:11:07 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-42962 I am glad someone sees things the way i do. Don't worry - I am very passionate about computers but the reality of work limits creative programming. I have a strong seperation of work and private life. That way the business and myself don't take advantage of each other. I work extra as necessary but I would rather be programming my own stuff on my own time. We both need to respect each others time. And the business still gets a better deal as a rested developer is a productive developer. I am glad someone sees things the way i do. Don’t worry – I am very passionate about computers but the reality of work limits creative programming. I have a strong seperation of work and private life. That way the business and myself don’t take advantage of each other. I work extra as necessary but I would rather be programming my own stuff on my own time. We both need to respect each others time. And the business still gets a better deal as a rested developer is a productive developer.

]]> By: pepethecow http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-42614 pepethecow Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:54:28 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-42614 it's ok....I...uhhhh..<cough>wrote it at work</cough>... ;) it’s ok….I…uhhhh..wrote it at work… ;)

]]> By: Rocko http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-42606 Rocko Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:26:49 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-42606 Hey guys, you aren't reading this at work, are you? You shouldn't :-) Hey guys, you aren’t reading this at work, are you?

You shouldn’t :-)

]]> By: Norman Andrews http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-42185 Norman Andrews Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:50:41 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-42185 How to work a 7.5-hour day : Move to Europe. @James :- I wouldn't work for you as I wouldn't be able to relate to any of the people you do hire. How to work a 7.5-hour day : Move to Europe.

@James :- I wouldn’t work for you as I wouldn’t be able to relate to any of the people you do hire.

]]> By: Daily Horoscope Ranking 2008 April 29 Tuesday | Free Dairy Horoscope 2008 tesnique.com http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-42164 Daily Horoscope Ranking 2008 April 29 Tuesday | Free Dairy Horoscope 2008 tesnique.com Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:01:15 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-42164 [...] Today’s web page is How to work an 8-hour day | Philosophical Geek [...] [...] Today’s web page is How to work an 8-hour day | Philosophical Geek [...]

]]> By: Alex http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-42051 Alex Sat, 19 Apr 2008 02:28:27 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-42051 Excellent post. I'm a developer at a creative firm, and I sit mixed in with a group of creative individuals, which I really enjoy. There are, however, times when the group gets a bit rowdy and a good set of headphones and a big library of music is great to keep you focused. One of the best tools there are to keep you from getting distracted. @James -> I'd rather hire someone concerned with the overall atmosphere, productivity and efficiency of my team or company than someone who just works late and pretends to be passionate. A real passionate person will always be looking for ways to improve things, not just accept how they are. Excellent post. I’m a developer at a creative firm, and I sit mixed in with a group of creative individuals, which I really enjoy. There are, however, times when the group gets a bit rowdy and a good set of headphones and a big library of music is great to keep you focused. One of the best tools there are to keep you from getting distracted.

@James -> I’d rather hire someone concerned with the overall atmosphere, productivity and efficiency of my team or company than someone who just works late and pretends to be passionate. A real passionate person will always be looking for ways to improve things, not just accept how they are.

]]> By: BarelyBlogging » Blog Archive » links for 2008-04-19 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-42049 BarelyBlogging » Blog Archive » links for 2008-04-19 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:34:19 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-42049 [...] How to work an 8-hour day | Philosophical Geek (tags: productivity work gtd toread) [...] [...] How to work an 8-hour day | Philosophical Geek (tags: productivity work gtd toread) [...]

]]> By: links for 2008-04-18 « D(i)PE’s weblog http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-42038 links for 2008-04-18 « D(i)PE’s weblog Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:30:40 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-42038 [...] How to work an 8-hour day | Philosophical Geek (tags: gtd productivity tips Work) [...] [...] How to work an 8-hour day | Philosophical Geek (tags: gtd productivity tips Work) [...]

]]> By: Leticia http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-41964 Leticia Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:05:37 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-41964 Usually I don't stay later than half an hour, and a precious half an hour it is because things have slowed down by that point and I can concentrate on wrapping things up. The exceptions are when I get to cover events, in which case I'm well-compensated for staying late, going in early. But, yeah, in general, I'm able to manage my time well enough that I can fit work into 8 hours. If you have to work more than 8 hours from time to time, make sure you're doing it for something you enjoy. But even jobs that you enjoy can be a strain if you consistently find yourself working 12-hour days. The point is to balance your work/private life so you can enjoy both. Usually I don’t stay later than half an hour, and a precious half an hour it is because things have slowed down by that point and I can concentrate on wrapping things up. The exceptions are when I get to cover events, in which case I’m well-compensated for staying late, going in early. But, yeah, in general, I’m able to manage my time well enough that I can fit work into 8 hours. If you have to work more than 8 hours from time to time, make sure you’re doing it for something you enjoy. But even jobs that you enjoy can be a strain if you consistently find yourself working 12-hour days. The point is to balance your work/private life so you can enjoy both.

]]> By: pepethecow http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-41956 pepethecow Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:08:19 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-41956 @James, not true--I am passionate about what I do, but that doesn't imply working long days. I'm also passionate about my hobbies, and other activities outside of work. The post was inspired from seeing huge wastes of time and productivity at work, not a general desire to leave. Just because you're passionate doesn't mean you can't be efficient. @James, not true–I am passionate about what I do, but that doesn’t imply working long days. I’m also passionate about my hobbies, and other activities outside of work.

The post was inspired from seeing huge wastes of time and productivity at work, not a general desire to leave. Just because you’re passionate doesn’t mean you can’t be efficient.

]]> By: James http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-41951 James Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:00:20 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-41951 I would not hire someone like you as your mindset indicates you're not passionate about your work. In the words of Donald Trump, "you're fired!" I would not hire someone like you as your mindset indicates you’re not passionate about your work.

In the words of Donald Trump, “you’re fired!”

]]> By: links for 2008-04-18 | Libin Pan http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-41948 links for 2008-04-18 | Libin Pan Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:43:56 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-41948 [...] How to work an 8-hour day | Philosophical Geek How to work an 8-hour day (tags: productivity gtd management) [...] [...] How to work an 8-hour day | Philosophical Geek How to work an 8-hour day (tags: productivity gtd management) [...]

]]> By: links for 2008-04-18 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-41940 links for 2008-04-18 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:40:09 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-41940 [...] How to work an 8-hour day Something I need to be better about… (tags: productivity work lists) [...] [...] How to work an 8-hour day Something I need to be better about… (tags: productivity work lists) [...]

]]> By: Link of The Day « Mr Hulk’s Blog http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/comment-page-1/#comment-41895 Link of The Day « Mr Hulk’s Blog Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:05:45 +0000 http://www.philosophicalgeek.com/2008/04/14/how-i-work-8-hour-days/#comment-41895 [...] How to work an 8-hour day Now i know where is my productive energy go. [...] [...] How to work an 8-hour day Now i know where is my productive energy go. [...]

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